A phrase, a slight reference. Something that is our daily bread (and how we like it) from fans of Marvel (and DC) movies has been enough to revive one of the great debates around the cinematographic universe of the day. The place: the trailer for ‘Spider-Man: Crossing the Multiverse’. Guilty: Miguel O’Hara, aka Spider-Man 2099.
And it is that during the trailer we see the superhero, one of those in charge of safeguarding the “spiderverse” talk about the one that messed with one of the arachnid counterparts: “And let’s not even talk about Doctor Strange and the brainiac from Earth-199999!”. a phrase that could be innocent but that its implications go beyond the simple wink.
The reference is clearly to what happened in ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’, with Tom Holland’s Peter Parker “mixing it up” in his desire to change things up and return to anonymity. However, with this nomenclature Spider-Man 2099 has somehow sentenced the debate that has arisen in recent years about which Earth the Marvel Cinematic Universe takes place on.
Earth-616 vs Earth-199999
And it is that, if we remember, in ‘Spider-Man: Far from home’ Mysterio named the UCM for the first time as earth-616, coinciding with the nomenclature of the Marvel Universe of comics. However, it was a fact that was not given too much importance because the hero of a parallel earth Quentin Beck had nothing.
In addition, this information contradicted that published by Marvel itself in the 2008 edition (just at the beginning of the UCM) of ‘The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe’, which named the world of movies as earth-199999. It seemed that the waters were returning to their course… until 2022.
In ‘Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness’, during a visit to Earth-838 Christine Palmer commented to the protagonists who have named the UCM Earth as Earth-616. For some reason, since Marvel Studios insist on copying the world of comics.
A debate that has not only arisen among fans of both the comics and the movies, but in which some of the actors of the franchise have also gotten involved. This is the case, for example, of Imam Vellani, the protagonist of ‘Ms. Marvel’, which is clear about the truth:
“I have this discussion with Kevin [Feige] every time I see him in person. it’s not at all [Tierra] 616, definitely the MCU is 199999.”
Decades ago Alan Moore and David Thorpe christened the “main” Marvel universe of comics as Earth-616 (supposedly in reference to the year and month of publication of the ‘Fantastic Four’ 1 in June 1961) in their Captain Britain run. This nomenclature later became official and, since then, it has always been used to talk about the main Marvel Universe, that of comics. You have to fight for it.